Joe Gacy On Original Plans For The Rock’s Daughter Ava In WWE NXT

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Schism leader Joe Gacy opened up about his original plans for working with Ava in WWE NXT.

Back in October of 2022, Dwayne Johnson’s daughter made her NXT debut after beginning her Performance Center training in 2020. Real name Simone Johnson, the star debuted under the name Ava Raine and aligned herself with Joe Gacy, Rip Fowler, and Jagger Reid, better known as The Schism.

Speaking in a new interview with Ryan Satin on Out of Character, Gacy opened up about his working relationship with the fourth-generation star, revealing that the two had plans to work together long before The Schism began to take form.

“Funny story about Ava Raine. Before I even debuted on TV, me and her got together and came up kind of with this idea of like a cult type group. Originally, it was me, her, and this other guy. We were basically pitching for us to be, the original idea was almost like a House of 1000 Corpses type family group with like a culty edge, but then things didn’t I guess work out exactly, and then 2.0 started, so I think that maybe changed some of the ideas.”

Joe Gacy Thinks It’s “Awesome” That Ava Joined The Schism After All

Continuing, Gacy noted that he thought the idea of working with Ava might not come to pass with the advent of NXT 2.0, but he’s glad she eventually joined the group.

“When 2.0 happened, I feel like some of that idea maybe kind of went out the window because it was like an overhaul repackaging of the brand itself. So she kind of like, I guess the idea of her and me joining together was kind of put on the backburner.

“Then when it was just me, Rip, and Jagger, she actually came up to me at the PC one day and said, ‘So did you hear what’s going to happen’, and I said, ‘No.’ She was like, ‘So I’m gonna join you guys’, and I said, ‘That’s awesome’, because originally it was going to be me and her trying to do something anyway. So I’m glad it finally panned out on TV. “